Build me an army worthy of....

...Squats!

Alright so here is my request: I would like to see what you could come up with in regards to a playable army using the models I have at my disposal. The army size I leave up to everyone to choose for themselves (if I get any takers that is).

I am aware there is a chronic shortage of Troop Transports amongst my owned models, but is mostly due to a chronic shortage of money in my wallet.

I am also still conflicted whether or not I will use alternative models instead of actual Chimeras. Especially seeing there are kits out now to convert official GW Chimera’s into wheeled versions which I like a lot more than their tracked cousins. This also goes for my use of AT-43’s Red Blok Dotch Yaga stand ins for my Basilisk.

Even though I have quite a number of Kolossus from AT-43’s Red Blok, I have already semi-abandoned them as viable stand ins for Hellhounds due to their smaller than expected size.

The reason I listed all of the models grouped as I did was in order to provide as many possible links to images of my army so you can get an idea of what you are working with (although most of you have seen these pictures before anyways).

Like most forums and such I would ask that you do not list the cost of every component in an army regiment, just list them with the total cost of the unit. For an Infantry Platoon for example the costs for a Command Squad, Regiment and Regiment.

Even though I have lost my faith in some of the models for my Squat army, I will list them anyways because one of you might have a good idea.

Classic
- 2 Living Ancestors (Pictures  One and Two)
- 5 Officers (Picture)
- 3 Sergeants (Picture)
- 3 Officers, Vox Caster and Standard Bearer (Picture)
- 9 Squat Troopers (Picture)
- 4,5 Exo Squats (Picture)
- 4 Heavy Weapon Teams (Pictures: One and Two)
- 10 Squat Bikers (Pictures: One and Two)

GW(ish)
- 1 Techpriest / Enginseer (White Dwarf Model) (Picture)
- Colonel ‘Iron Hand’ Straken (Picture)
- 5 Model, Platoon Command Squad (Commander, Vox Caster, Standard Bearer, two Plasma Gunners) (Picture)
- 30 Infantry (3 Infantry Squads, 1 Veteran Squad) (Pictures: One, Two, Three, Four)
- 3 Heavy Weapon Mortar Teams (Picture)
- 2 Leman Russ Executioners (Picture)
- 1 Basilisk (Picture)
- 1 Stormlord (Picture)

Other
- 10 Servitors (Converted Epic Landraiders, 4 Plasma, Pictures: One, Two, Three)
- 12 Guardsmen (B’Dass Troopers, No Picture)
- 2 Commissars (B’Dass Commanders, Picture)
- 10 Ogryns (Grizzly Exosuits / Holocaust Judge, Picture)
- 20 Penal Legionaires (Avatar of War, Dwarf Bezerkers)
- 10 Stormtroopers / Veterans with Carapace Armour (Hammerfall High Shield Gun Corps, Picture)
- 4 Sentinels (Robogear Werewolves, Picture, the model on the right)
- 3 Basilisks? (AT-43 Red Blok Dotch Yaga, Picture)
- 9 ??? (AT-43 Red Blok Kolossus, Picture)
- 3 Valkyrie / Vendetta (Robogear Condors, Picture)


* Most of the images are mine....but not all of them. So credit goes to the owners of each image.

Of course if you do not want to bother don't worry about it, at least you can take a look at the models I have collected so far. Thank you all for reading, appreciate it, you are what keeps me motivated.

Blurry Images!

Sentinel Replacements

Right seeing a comment on my previous post was about it has been a while since I posted some actual images of my Squats I decided to take some more (bad) images and upload them in order to show you all what I got so far. The empty bases with Units are just there as a visual reminder of where I need to assemble some more troops as my large bits order comes in.

Veteran Squad

The Werewolf walkers behind my Veteran Squad on the left are taller than a regular Imperial Guard Sentinel but will most likely work well as stand ins. If used in that capacity that leaves me with nine Red Blok Kolossi to find a use for. As mentioned previously they are a tad small for use as Hellhounds.

So I will need to find a new use for them, suggestions are more than welcome (those are suggestions, beyond get a decent camera).

General Overview

As you can see my table needs a lot of work still as well, I have scenery but most of it is unpainted (and possibly subject to change, yay Pegasus Models).

The colored models in the back, the Dotch Yaga's are to be my Basilisks and their size is similar to that of the actual model. The blue model is a Robogear Condor which will most likely be pressed into service as a Valkyrie.


Some more bits trickled in as well so I get to assemble some Plasma Servitors for my Enginseer, the Dwarf bodies still haven't arrived and I am still waiting on my Stormlord as well as several possible APC's. More updates as soon as I get my stuff!

Ratling Snipers, etc.

Army Overview Shot

Hogs of War Guest Post - Counts-As Armies

Original Post is Here.

What can I say, I'm a publicity whore. Also been a member of the Hogs of War community for a while now making me one of their rare Euro-Hogs. And seeing I started updating this regularly I took the plunge and asked to be a guest poster. Reposted here for posterity...and myself, because I have no actual updates on my army at the moment (snail mail, bah!).


Greetings all I’m Draxius, a newly minted guest poster here on Hogs of War, and you all have the poor luck to be reading my first post in that capacity. So forgive any odd looking choices in layout as I am still learning on how to use this format and hope to get better at it as I go.

I wanted to briefly touch on a subject which a lot of people seem to have an opinion about. So called “Counts-As” Armies. This is where models from either different armies or production companies other than the original producer are incorporated in a manner as depicted in the army book or codex. The other use is when using one army as another army.

I would like to touch upon the first in this post (making the title somewhat of a misnomer). For instance; I myself am working on building up an Imperial Guard army but have found numerous models and such that do fit my army theme and such. For instance I obtained models from the now discontinued game AT-43, Red Blok. Amongst these are the ones depicted below.

IG Sentinel / Hellhound?

My first hunch was to use these models as my Hellhounds, Sentinels and the larger one could function as either Basilisks or a Leman Russ. This of course brings with it the question of model size. The Red Blok Kolossus is nowhere near as tall as a Sentinel, and compared to a Hellhound its size is even more disproportionate.

 

I figured a suitable solution might be to actually add a base that is the same size as the Hellhound template; this does not solve the height difference. Height in my eyes is a smaller problem as its benefits are evened out with the drawback. Sure you might not be able to shoot at my model, but I can't fire at you either.

 

IG Basilisk / Leman Russ?

As I am not a tournament player I am not sure what the stance is on using other models in your army but as far as I know GW Sanctioned tournaments require the army to be comprised of GW models only.

There are a lot of miniature companies out there that make fantastic models, is it wrong for wanting to use these? Especially now, with prices rising, there are some alternatives which are plain cheaper.


So I would like to ask what it is that you think on this matter. Are you for or against “Counts-As” Armies and/or Units? And regardless of the answer, why?

Demiurge and the Tau Empire

Imperial Guard Veterans?

So as I already mentioned the possibility of Human Conscript troopers it would be wrong to not mention the following possibility. As I also own a small Tau army I could also possibly use Tau Fire Warriors as Imperial Guard Veterans and my collection of Kroot as a Penal Legion Squad. Much like the humans I prefer not to use any other army influences at all, but if using any and all models available for a possible Apocalypse Battle they are a welcome collection of more bodies.

Penal Legion Squad?

At the moment (as soon as my models arrive) I can assemble an army of over 6000 points, including the Tau I might up that even higher. Speaking of models arriving... My squad of B'dass troopers arrived along with the two Squat looking Comissars. The order of Miniature Market also arrived increasing my army with 6 Kolossi and 3 Dotch Yagas. I do have to say they are fine looking miniatures although the Kolossi are less....colossal than I expected. They might still work as Sentinels or Hellhounds, but I will have to increase their base sizes in order to make it so that I am not powergaming.

Kolossus

Dotch Yaga

Also arrived is my small order from GW. Plasma guns for my squads and more round bases. Which will come in handy now that I have ordered in more lasgun arms so I can actually reassemble my Cadians as well.

Huzzah!

On an unrelated note, I am aware my posting speed has slowed down. This is mostly due to me actually wanting to have something to post about as opposed to me boring everyone to tears with how work was today and such. Thanks for reading!